Antigone

Sophocles' heroine in the play of the same name is a subject that you could put in the category "black and/or white". And, of course, calling her a "heroine" rather nicely emphasises the ambiguity of much that I like in photography. You will need to make your own mind up, after reading the play, as to whether indeed she is a heroine. This is the admittedly tenuous link with this blog's normal subject matter.

A famous German, Hegel, whom I won't name, was of the opinion that Greek tragedy cut to the core of things, and that the later usurper Shakespeare spent too much time dressing his dramatis personae up in needless, and frivolous, characterisation. Beneath the possibly obvious art and simplicity of the Greek tragedy, all the subtleties of the human condition are there to be examined and exposed.

This is how I feel about B+W photography compared with colour. It may well not coincide with other people's views - please feel free to argue.

Comments
And you assume there will be argument? Colour in my view merely detracts from the real issues at hand. Nowadays it seems the better you are able to saturate something, the more colours, the better the photograph. I think photographs are portraying more of what we wish rather than what IS these days. In persuit of the most beautiful picture we have forgotten the message (if there is one). So many photographs, and yet so little meaning...
# Posted By Sean | 9/11/09 7:22 PM
Sean - I certainly agree with that - although of course not all photographs strive for a meaning, or need to.
# Posted By Richard | 9/11/09 7:26 PM
Darn you! It's about 50 years since I read Antigone. Now I can't remember it all and I've got to go and look it up. Anyway, Hegel (whom you do not mention) was a just a contentious "stress mechanic" at the deHavilland factory. He was sacked for time wasting.
# Posted By Chuckeroon | 9/12/09 10:30 AM
I think it would be interesting to compare the
percentage of male photographers to the percentage of female photographers
who use black & white or colour.
Do you think b&w is about meaning
and colour is about feeling?
# Posted By freefalling | 9/13/09 10:44 PM
Hi FF - trying to say I'm some kinda cold fish eh? Actually I think because of it's simplicity B+W is actually better at capturing mood and emotion - so there! But an interesting hypothesis
# Posted By Richard | 9/14/09 8:01 AM
This is intriguing. We're back to where we came in, discussing Schiller and the genuine and the contrived. Have you ever thought of yourself as a smooth old lounge lizard, Richard? Or are you a genuine gut wrencher, with real power in your elbow? Interesting that it takes someone from the Antipodes way out in the back paddick to flush you out.
# Posted By Chuckeroon | 9/14/09 4:08 PM
Can we possibly agree that both Sophocles and Shakespeare had some talents?
# Posted By Peter | 9/18/09 10:07 PM
Colour is important. It's part of the original so if you miss it out you're telling lies. Of course you can also tell lies WITH colour but it's all a question of whether you want to report what you see or what you want to see. B&W photography is manipulation by its nature.
# Posted By Allan | 9/22/09 2:07 PM
Allan - I wasn't saying that B+W was more truthful than colour - it's just easier, and clearer to make certain visual points. I suppose I gave the impression that this relates to all photogrpahs, but I don't really mean that either.

I don't think you'll find truth in any photograph - all photographs are partial, subjective. I also don't agree that colour is necessarily important in the photograph, just because it was there. It might be. Depends what it is that you saw. "I paint what I see, not what I know is there" - as Turner said
# Posted By richard | 9/22/09 2:58 PM
No worries, Richard. There was just a wee bit of a wind-up in my comments to see your reaction. I went to school with you! Do your detective work.

I stand by most of what I wrote though.
# Posted By Allan | 9/23/09 3:48 PM
I love your photos in b&w and I couldn't imagine them being any different and I know that some of the most moving, striking or powerful photos ever produced were b&w.
Yet I can't help it, I'm a lover of colour. At the time of taking photos or post processing them I can't bring myself (or very rarely) to switch to b&w. I feel I'm depriving myself of something that gives me too much joy to be shed.

So coming here is like taking a lesson in restraint, clarity and light management. B&W only works if uncluttered or the photo becomes incoherent, impossible to read. These are important lessons
# Posted By nathalie | 9/24/09 2:14 PM
Hey Allan - I did wonder having seen the email address, but I thought you only had one 'l' in those days! Anyway, nice to hear from you - and by the way, watch out with the wind-ups otherwise I might be forced to publish those photos of you and whatsername from 1972... ;)
# Posted By Richard | 9/25/09 7:36 AM
Nathalie - vive la différence!
# Posted By Richard | 9/25/09 7:37 AM
Yeh, which one from 1972? :)

Next time you're in Edinburgh drop me an email and I'll get some of your old pals together for a pint. You can take the group photo.
# Posted By Allan | 9/25/09 4:04 PM
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